Gran Turismo 7 Season 10 Division 3

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  1. Viperzed

    Viperzed GT7 League Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    League rules and regs : http://raceonoz.com/forums/index.php?threads/racing-rules-regulations.70/
    Racing Guidelines : http://raceonoz.com/forums/index.php?threads/gt7-sunday-league-racing-room-guidelines.4776/
    Protest procedure : http://raceonoz.com/forums/index.php?threads/procedure-for-post-race-complaints-or-protests.193/

    Car : Red Bull X2014 Junior

    Tuning: Prohibited
    Tyre Wear : 10x
    Tyres Required : Racing Hards
    Fuel Depletion : 5x
    Initial Fuel : 100%
    Qualifying regs : 10 mins (Qualifying Mode)
    Start Time : Qualifying 8:00 AEST Race Start 8:15 AEST (Enduro starts 30mins earlier)

    Track list (event date)

    04/08 - Pre Season Qualifying
    Eiger Nordwand, Big Willow, Deep Forest
    10 min quali at each, 0x tire, 0x Fuel, Equal Conditions, Afternoon S01

    11/08 - Round 1
    Dragon Trail Seaside - 27 Laps - Custom Weather - Early Morning 8x

    18/08 - Round 2 One Hour Round

    Suzuka Circuit - 29 Laps - Custom Weather - Early Morning 8x

    25/08 - Round 3

    Brands Hatch Grand Prix Circuit - 31 Laps - Custom Weather - Early Morning 8x

    01/09 - Fathers Day Break

    08/09 - Round 4 90 min enduro

    Nurburgring GP - 45 Laps - Custom Weather - Late Morning 3x

    15/09 - Round 5

    Laguna Seca - 32 Laps - Custom Weather - Early Morning 11x

    22/09 - Round 6 Sprint Round (Race 2/3 Reverse Grid)

    Trial Mountain - 7 Laps x3 - Preset Weather - S01 Afternoon

    29/09 - Round 7 USA Round

    Watkins Glen Long Circuit - 25 Laps - Custom Weather - Late Morning 10x

    Room Settings:
    Room Mode: Practice/Qualifier/Race
    Room Privacy: Friends Only
    Room Name: RaceOnOz S10 Div 3 R#
    Race Type: Race for Real
    Max Number of Participants: 16
    Start Type: Grid Start with false start check
    Grid Order: Fastest First
    BoP/Tuning Forbidden: On
    Settings Options: Some (Brake Balance Only)
    Boost: Off
    Slipstream Strength: Real
    Visible Damage: Off
    Mechanical Damage: Light
    Refuelling Speed: 6 Litre/Sec
    Grip Reduction Off Track: Real
    Race Finish Delay: 180 sec
    Nitro/Overtaking System Usage Time Multiplier: Default
    Qualifier Settings
    Time Limit: 10 Minutes
    Qualifying Continuation Time: 180 seconds
    Tyre Wear Rate: 0x
    Fuel Consumption Rate: Same as Race
    Initial Fuel: Same as Race
    Filter By Category: No Limit
    PP Limit: TBA
    Max Power Output: TBA
    Minimum Weight: 550kg
    Nitrous: Cannot be Fitted
    Kart Usage: Off
    Engine Swap: Prohibited
    Tuning Parts: Extreme and Lower
    Shortcut Penalty: Off
    Wall Collision Penalty: Off
    Correct Vehicle Course After Wall Collision: Off
    Car Collision Penalty: Off
    Pit Lane Line Cutting Penalty: On
    Ghosting During Race: Off
    Flag Rules: On
    Countersteering Assistance: Prohibited
    Active Stability Management: Prohibited
    Driving Line Assist: No Limit
    Traction Control: No Limit
    ABS: No Limit
    Auto-Drive: Prohibited

    Room Host : Steve_73_Goof
    Back Up Host :
    Room Captain/s : Steve_73_Goof, Half-Byte
    Drivers List: Can change post PreQ

    1. Steve_73_Goof GRT
    2. Half-Byte BHR
    3. CobberSupreme PRV
    4. Emmo46 PRV
    5. Arnoldwa SAR
    6. Anders_race BHR
    7. Tuddy5611 PNL
    8. Fezza (Missing R4-7) PRV
    9. Wolfy1961 GRT
    10. Vardz GRT
    11. Jim_Aka_The_Man GRT
    12. TacticalHomework (Missing R3) BHR
    13. Doodah PNL
    14. Britzlightning GRT
    15. RbrHoges97 PRV
    16. Blunty075 PNL

    Reserves
    Tube-nvnz (R3 & R6)
    ControllaGod
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2024
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  2. Viperzed

    Viperzed GT7 League Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    SEASON 10 QUALIFYING NIGHT
    - Eiger Nordwand
    - Deep Forest
    - Big Willow
    10 min Qualifying Sessions - All Preset Weather S01, Afternoon, Equal Conditions On
    0x Tire Wear, 0x Fuel Wear, All other settings same as listed in OP

    WELCOME to Season 10 for Gran Turismo 7!!
    As always please take a couple minutes to read the following so you have an understanding of what is expected on quali night.
    If you have any questions, or want clarification on any of the rules or regulations please ask!

    ROOM OPEN:
    Room captains may have practice rooms open beforehand but should have the official room up by 7:30pm AEST. Please be on time, or let the room captain or div thread know if you may be late. If all agree, the room may wait for you, Within reason. Please remember we have drivers from NZ, and later starts mean a much later night for them.

    SIGHT ISSUES:
    Before qualifying, exit to lobby and spend 30 seconds in spectate mode, scroll through the list of drivers on track and make sure that you can see their car. If you can't see somebody (and they are confirmed as being on track), exit the lobby, re-join, and check again. Type the number of cars you can see in the lobby chat and cross check with other drivers to ensure clarity.

    QUALIFYING 1 : 8pm AEST for 10 mins.
    Feel free to run practice laps prior to qualifying, The host will trigger a 'Room Reset' closer to the commencement of Qualifying. Qualifying will be run IN PRACTICE MODE.

    PITS ARE OPEN DURING QUALIFYING

    LAG ISSUES / ROOM RESTARTS:
    This is up to the room host/captains. Disconnections that occur during qualifying should be able to join back without hassle as we are running qualifying in Practice mode. If a room is deemed too laggy to continue, it may be wise to change room hosts.

    TRACK LIMITS:
    As we are running with 'track limit penalties" OFF, we will run with our usual Raceonoz track limit regulations. This means you MUST have at least 2 wheels on the ripple strip OR white line that defines the track limit. If you do make a mistake and have to run outside the limits, be aware that you are not allowed to gain any advantage time wise.

    Track Limits will not be monitored tonight due to the session settings. Please follow RaceOnOz track limit rules to ensure a fair and even chance amongst everybody while setting your laps.



    CONTACT:
    Is to be avoided at all times..... I'm not even going to warrant this section with a full paragraph. Do not hit eachother. If I have to be contacted about people making contact in a qualifying session I won't hesitate to hand out penalties for the season. That also goes for bump drafting which is STRICTLY PROHIBITED TONIGHT.

    PIT ENTRY/EXIT LINES:
    Pit Line Penalties are ON so you will be penalised in game if you cut any part of the entry or exit lines. You may receive a penalty for misjudging your line on entry. Be mindful not to impede other cars on your way in. Due to the session being run in practice mode, it's advised that if you must return to Pit Lane, pull off the track safely, and warp to pits with no other cars around you.

    BLUE FLAGS:
    There will be no Blue Flags in use tonight so please use your mirrors and be aware of cars around you. You are not obliged to move out of the way for anyone if you are on a hot lap, but please if you are not on a hot lap, be courteous and respectful to those who may be on a hot lap.

    STEWARDS GROUP AND RACE PROTESTS:
    This season, the Head Steward will be @Viperzed. There will be no official protests for the qualifying round (unless its something ridiculous) however if you believe an incident needs to be addressed, don't be afraid to teach out and ask the question.
    DO NOT BLOW UP IN THE FORUM OR IN THE ROOM CHAT. There have been multiple incidents where the replays from drivers have been different, so its true that sometimes things are not as black and white as they may seem.

    PARKING UP:
    If you are unable to continue for any reason, please either enter the pits manually or warp to pits via the Options menu. Parking up off track activates yellow flags in the sector, and even though penalties are off, we have reports of penalties occurring for passes happening near the parked car. Please make sure you screenshot your session best times PRIOR to leaving the track.

    ATTENDANCE:
    Could all drivers please inform Room Captains or make a post on the division thread if they do not intend on attending. Room Captains/ Lobby Hosts are advised not to wait for anyone who has not communicated their intentions. If you do not post in your room thread or psn chat that you cannot attend, a spot may not be held for you for the following week's event.

    Qualifying Specific
    Each circuit will have a short practice session followed by a 10 min qualifying session in which lap times and optimal lap times will be monitored in order to ensure our divisions are as close as possible! In order to do this, Drivers are to screenshot their Session Best tab in the HUD to record their best lap time as well as optimal lap time. These times can then be sent to the Division PSN chat where they will be recorded by admin and used to finalise our divisions. Screenshots can be taken by pressing the share button on their wheel or controller, drivers can then send screenshots to the Division chat where @Matthyus will pain stakingly collate the data and form our final divisions.

    For this reason, drivers are advised to avoid slipstream where possible as it will unfairly lower your optimal lap time and potentially increase your risk of being put in a division that does not match your ability in this car.
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  3. Hatfield

    Hatfield GT7 League & Teams Championship Organiser Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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  4. Viperzed

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  5. Viperzed

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    Round 1: 11/08: Dragon Trai Seaside - 27 Laps - Custom Weather - Early Morning 8x
    [​IMG]
    WELCOME to Season 10 for Gran Turismo 7!!
    As always please take a couple minutes to read the following so you have an understanding of what is expected on race night.
    If you have any questions, or want clarification on any of the rules or regulations please ask!

    ROOM OPEN:
    Room captains may have practice rooms open beforehand but should have the official room up by 7:30pm AEST. Please be on time, or let the room captain or div thread know if you may be late. If all agree, the room may wait for you, Within reason. Please remember we have drivers from NZ, and later starts mean a much later night for them.

    SIGHT ISSUES:
    Before qualifying, exit to lobby and spend 30 seconds in spectate mode, scroll through the list of drivers on track and make sure that you can see their car. If you can't see somebody (and they are confirmed as being on track), exit the lobby, re-join, and check again. Type the number of cars you can see in the lobby chat and cross check with other drivers to ensure clarity.

    QUALIFYING : 8pm AEST for 10 mins.
    Feel free to run practice laps prior to qualifying, The host will trigger a 'Room Reset' closer to the commencement of Qualifying.

    PITS ARE OPEN DURING QUALIFYING

    RACE START TIME : 8:15pm AEST

    LAG ISSUES / ROOM RESTARTS:
    This is up to the room host/captains. If there is a Disconnection (or cars stuck on grid) at race start, it is sporting to try to get them back in, which may mean a new room to be set up. I would suggest only having 1 restart if required due to DSC, due to having to set up the room from scratch and also having to set timed laps in order to set the grid. Please be as reasonable as you can with this....

    TURN 1 LAP 1:
    The old saying goes, you can’t win the race on lap 1, but you can definitely lose it. Please be mindful of other drivers on lap 1 coming into turn 1, and for that matter, the entire race. It can be very demoralizing to hot lap on your own for 45 minutes as I'm sure many of you are aware.

    TRACK LIMITS:
    As we are running with 'track limit penalties" OFF, we will run with our usual Raceonoz track limit regulations. This means you MUST have at least 2 wheels on the ripple strip OR white line that defines the track limit. If you do make a mistake and have to run outside the limits, be aware that you are not allowed to gain any advantage, position or time wise. Track Limits protests may be launched by any active driver in the race.

    Track Limits will be monitored generally around the entire circuit. Track limits will be defined as two wheels on the red and white kerb, or white line, whichever is further out.


    CONTACT:
    Is to be avoided at all times..... If you make contact with someone and gain an advantage, YOU ARE EXPECTED to give the spot back. Occasionally, Gran Turismo track limits may teleport a disadvantaged driver backwards on circuit to ‘reset’ them, if this occurs at the hand of another driver, IT IS EXPECTED that the driver at fault will wait and redress the position.
    Side by side 'rubbing' is racing is allowed and promoted within reason, but all drivers are expected to give racing room. For clarity surrounding racing room, please feel free to PM @Viperzed
    Show each other RESPECT! It is difficult enough to drive the car at the limit on your own, without someone squeezing you within a millimeter of the grass.
    So be patient and show respect to your fellow drivers.
    If you are redressing contact, please do so out of the way of other cars, off the racing line, or if there isn't much room, off track.

    PIT ENTRY/EXIT LINES:
    Pit Line Penalties are ON so you will be penalised in game if you cut any part of the entry or exit lines. Be mindful entering the pits that you will need to commit to coming in during the final corner. You may receive a penalty for misjudging your line on entry. Be mindful not to impede other cars on your way in. On pit exit, cars exiting the lane are reminded to keep drivers right if there are any cars approaching, you will have to give them space.

    BLUE FLAGS:
    Please observe blue flags, and move out of the way of faster cars if you are being lapped. Failure to observe blue flags WILL result in a penalty

    STEWARDS GROUP AND RACE PROTESTS:
    This season, the Head Steward will be @Viperzed. If you have reason to protest, please SAVE YOUR REPLAY, and then let him know via a PM.
    DO NOT BLOW UP IN THE FORUM OR IN THE ROOM CHAT. There have been multiple incidents where the replays from drivers have been different, so its true that sometimes things are not as black and white as they may seem. You have until MIDNIGHT, Monday night to register your protest via PM. Stewards may ask for video evidence from both drivers or room captains to make any decision.

    SAVE YOUR REPLAY:
    If the room host can ask all drivers to save their replay would be good before exiting the room.....once they exit out and the option goes, it cant be retrieved!

    PARKING UP:
    If you are unable to continue to race, please enter the pits and leave your game paused without selecting tyres so that your car stays parked in the pits. Parking up off track activates yellow flags in the sector, and even though penalties are off, we have reports of penalties occurring for passes happening near the parked car. Quitting off track results in a sometimes race ending lag spike and may be punished in extreme scenarios.

    ATTENDANCE:
    Could all drivers please inform Room Captains or make a post on the division thread if they do not intend on racing on Sunday night, Room Captains/ Lobby Hosts are advised not to wait for anyone who has not communicated their intentions. If you do not post in your room thread or psn chat that you cannot attend, a spot may not be held for you for the following weeks race.

    TRACK SPECIFIC - Dragon Trail Seaside
    We're back, but it feels very different! A major physics change, a car we've been waiting for, some old friends returned and it all happens at one of the best original tracks we have now! Dragon Trail Seaside will provide a perfect battleground to dule out round 1 in what will be 3, packed to the rafters divisions! We're expecting massive attendance numbers all season in all divs, which should spice up the title fight that much more!

    As for Seaside itself, it's a high speed dogfight where staying in Slipstream is key. Minimise your mistakes and keep with the pack by all means necessary, undercuts and overcuts can be dangerous as you can go a long way on tires without chewing them up in the tow. The death Chicane will eat a few drivers again, please if you are caught out, be mindful and move off race line immediately!
  6. George

    George Team Driver Gold Member

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    Huge sorry to everyone tonight. My car was struggling to pick up the clutch from reverses when I put it against walls and then suddenly it decided to do the same for any forward gear. I tried everything possible, but the game would not let the car release the clutch and move. Again, I'm sorry for causing that yellow for so long.

    Hopefully a better run next week.
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  7. emmo46

    emmo46 Steward Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    I did about 100 or so laps of practice and never touched the $%^#ing chicane once, come the race and I hit it twice :confused:
    Congratulations to the podium.
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  8. Kieran_B33

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    Qualified 3rd
    Finished 5th
    Got a poor start and dropped back a bit but was a stint without issues.
    2nd stint i stuffed up twice in the last 7 odd laps, first going into T6 was messing with the MFD and touched the grass, kept it out the wall but lost a load of time. Then later on i had moved into 3rd after Doodah mishap but on the same lap binned it in the death chicane.
    Congrats to Britz on a pretty consistent drive for the win.
    Shout out to Steve for a pretty smooth operation to get on the podium from 8th.
    And unlucky to Doodah who would have most likely won without a couple spins and crashes.
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  9. Steve Neilson

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    Total Bradbury effort on my part.
    Not going to complain tho.
    Looked to be peeps having good tussles all round.
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  10. CobberSupreme

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    @Kieran_B33 connection was bouncy again. Definitely makes you a little more cautious during overtake/defensive manoeuvres, which isn't entirely a bad thing. There were times where it would take a moment for it to correct, but the visual and audio result was you going headfirst into the death chicane wall (among other places) :roflmao:. Anyway good to see that it's not affecting your results too badly and you made for a tough chase at times.
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  11. Kieran_B33

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    I had a watch of steves replay for a bit and i definitely seem a lot smoother for the most part, even @Savage_Duck_75 reached out to ask about it.
    As for the lag corrections i also saw them too from my screen and was thinking a couple times i was getting an easy pass before the game corrected lol.
    I definitely didnt suffer on tyre wear as i did last season.
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  12. Savage_Duck_75

    Savage_Duck_75 Team Driver Gold Member

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    Thanks for Emmo and his time stamped notes. Could not have published this any quicker without them.
  13. emmo46

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    Not one of my best efforts, never really have any luck at this track and I need to find some more pace.
  14. RBRHoges97

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    Great works as always Duck, and also thanks to Emmo for providing the notes .. Cheers
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  15. Viperzed

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    Round 2: 18/08: Suzuka Circuit - 29 Laps - Custom Weather - Early Morning 8x
    [​IMG]
    WELCOME to Season 10 for Gran Turismo 7!!
    As always please take a couple minutes to read the following so you have an understanding of what is expected on race night.
    If you have any questions, or want clarification on any of the rules or regulations please ask!

    ROOM OPEN:
    Room captains may have practice rooms open beforehand but should have the official room up by 7:30pm AEST. Please be on time, or let the room captain or div thread know if you may be late. If all agree, the room may wait for you, Within reason. Please remember we have drivers from NZ, and later starts mean a much later night for them.

    SIGHT ISSUES:
    Before qualifying, exit to lobby and spend 30 seconds in spectate mode, scroll through the list of drivers on track and make sure that you can see their car. If you can't see somebody (and they are confirmed as being on track), exit the lobby, re-join, and check again. Type the number of cars you can see in the lobby chat and cross check with other drivers to ensure clarity.

    QUALIFYING : 8pm AEST for 10 mins.
    Feel free to run practice laps prior to qualifying, The host will trigger a 'Room Reset' closer to the commencement of Qualifying.

    PITS ARE OPEN DURING QUALIFYING

    RACE START TIME : 8:15pm AEST

    LAG ISSUES / ROOM RESTARTS:
    This is up to the room host/captains. If there is a Disconnection (or cars stuck on grid) at race start, it is sporting to try to get them back in, which may mean a new room to be set up. I would suggest only having 1 restart if required due to DSC, due to having to set up the room from scratch and also having to set timed laps in order to set the grid. Please be as reasonable as you can with this....

    TURN 1 LAP 1:
    The old saying goes, you can’t win the race on lap 1, but you can definitely lose it. Please be mindful of other drivers on lap 1 coming into turn 1, and for that matter, the entire race. It can be very demoralizing to hot lap on your own for 45 minutes as I'm sure many of you are aware.

    TRACK LIMITS:
    As we are running with 'track limit penalties" OFF, we will run with our usual Raceonoz track limit regulations. This means you MUST have at least 2 wheels on the ripple strip OR white line that defines the track limit. If you do make a mistake and have to run outside the limits, be aware that you are not allowed to gain any advantage, position or time wise. Track Limits protests may be launched by any active driver in the race.

    Track Limits will be monitored generally around the entire circuit. Track limits will be defined as two wheels on the red and white kerb, or white line, whichever is further out.


    CONTACT:
    Is to be avoided at all times..... If you make contact with someone and gain an advantage, YOU ARE EXPECTED to give the spot back. Occasionally, Gran Turismo track limits may teleport a disadvantaged driver backwards on circuit to ‘reset’ them, if this occurs at the hand of another driver, IT IS EXPECTED that the driver at fault will wait and redress the position.
    Side by side 'rubbing' is racing is allowed and promoted within reason, but all drivers are expected to give racing room. For clarity surrounding racing room, please feel free to PM @Viperzed
    Show each other RESPECT! It is difficult enough to drive the car at the limit on your own, without someone squeezing you within a millimeter of the grass.
    So be patient and show respect to your fellow drivers.
    If you are redressing contact, please do so out of the way of other cars, off the racing line, or if there isn't much room, off track.

    PIT ENTRY/EXIT LINES:
    Pit Line Penalties are ON so you will be penalised in game if you cut any part of the entry or exit lines. Be mindful entering the pits that you will need to commit to coming in during the final corner. You may receive a penalty for misjudging your line on entry. Be mindful not to impede other cars on your way in. On pit exit, cars exiting the lane are reminded to keep drivers right if there are any cars approaching, you will have to give them space.

    BLUE FLAGS:
    Please observe blue flags, and move out of the way of faster cars if you are being lapped. Failure to observe blue flags WILL result in a penalty

    STEWARDS GROUP AND RACE PROTESTS:
    This season, the Head Steward will be @Viperzed. If you have reason to protest, please SAVE YOUR REPLAY, and then let him know via a PM.
    DO NOT BLOW UP IN THE FORUM OR IN THE ROOM CHAT. There have been multiple incidents where the replays from drivers have been different, so its true that sometimes things are not as black and white as they may seem. You have until MIDNIGHT, Monday night to register your protest via PM. Stewards may ask for video evidence from both drivers or room captains to make any decision.

    SAVE YOUR REPLAY:
    If the room host can ask all drivers to save their replay would be good before exiting the room.....once they exit out and the option goes, it cant be retrieved!

    PARKING UP:
    If you are unable to continue to race, please enter the pits and leave your game paused without selecting tyres so that your car stays parked in the pits. Parking up off track activates yellow flags in the sector, and even though penalties are off, we have reports of penalties occurring for passes happening near the parked car. Quitting off track results in a sometimes race ending lag spike and may be punished in extreme scenarios.

    ATTENDANCE:
    Could all drivers please inform Room Captains or make a post on the division thread if they do not intend on racing on Sunday night, Room Captains/ Lobby Hosts are advised not to wait for anyone who has not communicated their intentions. If you do not post in your room thread or psn chat that you cannot attend, a spot may not be held for you for the following weeks race.

    TRACK SPECIFIC - Suzuka Circuit
    A classic Japanese GT circuit, Suzuka returns to our calendar for the one hour round. We start at our usual time, but a slightly extended race gives us chance of rain and an adjusted strategy. Make sure everyone has purchased Inters and Wet in case the heavens do open!
  16. Blunty075

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    I know getting a blue flag isn't fun, but when you get one move out of the way! No-one should be passing a car under a blue flag with them on the apex of the corner.
  17. emmo46

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    5 crashes in 2 races, o_O
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  18. Kieran_B33

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    was wondering what happened, pole and leading for quite some time, but finished 10th?
  19. emmo46

    emmo46 Steward Team Raceonoz Gold Member Super ROOZ

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    My speed exceeded my skill on three occasions this week.
  20. Kieran_B33

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    i qualified on the front row alongside pole sitter emmo, unfortunately spun out on lap 1 coming out of the esses all the way to last, managed to crawl myself up to 4th but annoyingly touched the grass going into t11 trying to get past tube-nvnz who had made a mistake out of degner 2 and was on a compromised run to the hairpin, hindsight is 20/20 but a bit more patience would have got me past safely as he was running low on fuel, and perhaps i would have been in the battle with doodah and britz for the final 2 podium spots.
    well done to jim on the win.
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